Do you know that you need rest, but still struggle to give yourself time to rest?
In today’s episode, I speak with my guest and friend, Octavia Raheem about her new book, “Rest is Sacred” and the how rest is more essential and revolutionary than ever.
Octavia and I talk about how to rest and still be ambitious, and also how rest is the spark for creativity, fulfilment, and dreaming bigger than you ever imagined.
In this poignant conversation, we dig into the idea of overwork as an addiction, and how rest also provides a structure to breaking old patterns, plus the cultural conditioning that can make resting so challenging.
Octavia shares so much wisdom and learning — you do NOT want to miss this episode!
“Rest is not just a physical practice—it’s a sacred communion with yourself. It’s recognizing your worth beyond what you can produce or achieve.” Octavia Raheem
“For so many of us, especially women of color, we’re conditioned to prioritize work above all else. But redefining our relationship with rest can be a profound act of self-love and resistance.” Nicole Tsong
“The misconception that rest equates to a lack of ambition is so ingrained in our culture. In reality, rest brings clarity and alignment with your true purpose, sharpening your vision and focus.” Octavia Raheem
“I’ve learned that integrating rest into my life isn’t about doing less; it’s about doing what truly matters with more joy and presence. It’s a constant balancing act, but it’s worth every effort.” Nicole Tsong
NICOLE
Hello. Welcome back to another episode of the School of Self-Worth. I’m your host, Nicole Tsong. This week I had the most incredible opportunity to have a conversation with Octavia Raheem. Some of you longtime listeners may recall Octavia was our very first guest on the School of Self-Worth back when we launched, and I am so thrilled to bring her back to share about her new book, *Rest is Sacred*. Octavia is an author, a teacher of rest, and she has so much more. She’s a mother, a wife, a leader, a creative, a game changer. I have been so lucky ever since she and I reconnected through the podcast to really connect with her on a consistent basis. I have to say, she’s just such a remarkable, incredible person. So I cannot be more delighted to have her back to talk about her book, which is really about rest and, even on a deeper level, the courage for us to learn to rest in our lives.
Before we get started on this rich conversation, if you are a high-achieving Asian American corporate leader who has been passed over for promotion and you want to manifest a promotion in 60 days while working 20% fewer hours, DM me “promoted” on Instagram at Nicole Tsong; I’ve got something there for you. Okay, friends, let’s dive into this beautiful conversation.
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
Welcome to the School of Self-Worth, a podcast for ambitious women who know they are worthy of an astoundingly great life. Join us weekly as we get on the right side of your intuition, redefine success, and reclaim your self-worth. I’m your host, Nicole Tsong, an award-winning journalist who left it all behind to become a bestselling author of three books and a work-life balance expert, helping ambitious women unlock their intuition and step into a life of fulfillment and radical joy. Every single week, I will bring you diverse and meaningful conversations with successful women from all walks of life who share insights about what it takes to be brave, joyful, and authentic every day. Every episode is thoughtfully designed to leave you feeling empowered with tangible tips and advice that will lead you to your next breakthrough.
NICOLE
Octavia, I’m so glad you’re here. I’m so glad to welcome you back to the School of Self-Worth.
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
You know, I’m happy to be here.
NICOLE
Well, Octavia and I are very good buddies. We call ourselves the Boss Bitches, and we hang out and connect frequently.
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
You’re not supposed to tell people that!
NICOLE
But it’s such a good name.
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
It really is.
NICOLE
And so I am really just so delighted to have you back because you were our very first episode of the School of Self-Worth. You were sharing with me, and I’ve actually really known a lot about this journey you’ve been on to create the book that is now out in the world. And that’s really what we’re here to talk about. But I wanted to just share with all of you that she and I chat really pretty frequently about life and business and what’s going on. So I could not be more thrilled to have you back here.
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
It’s good to be here.
NICOLE
So you have just put out your third book. Congratulations!
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
Thank you!
NICOLE
It’s so beautiful. It’s called *Rest is Sacred*; for those who are on video, you can see it here. It’s just beautiful.
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
It is beautiful.
NICOLE
Look at that gold on the front; it’s lovely. I’m so excited for you. I’ve read your other books as well, and there’s just been a whole journey. I want to talk about that part first—the journey for you to come to this place of a book. For those of you who have never written a book before, writing a book is a massive endeavor. It is not something to be taken lightly. Once you begin that journey, it’s a really long journey, generally years. So I’m curious for you, Octavia. You’ve written two; you’ve been through that experience twice before. What was it that really initiated and called you to write this one?
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
So I’ve written three books since 2020, and it is now, as we’re recording this, at the end of 2024. What called me to *Rest is Sacred* is really my rest practices. My rest practice, like yoga nidra and restorative yoga, I pair it with journaling essentially every single time, right? I rest and I write. I rest and I write. If you do that enough—and for me, I did that enough—I could look back and see there are these threads, let’s call them sacred threads, emerging. It’s not simply for me; here’s this message that I trust, know, and believe will benefit the world. On the simplest level, I practice what I write about and what I teach and what I preach. Out of the overflow of my practice, a more sustainable way of sharing about the practice emerges, right? Because I’m a coach, and most of the time I’m with people in small group settings. The mechanism of a book allows me to reach a far wider audience than a singular individual can or than I can as a singular individual.
Why *Rest is Sacred* and why right now? People are tired. Are you tired? You know what I’m saying? We have pushed, we have fought, we have worked, we have overworked, we have hit burnout, and we have started that cycle all over again to impact change, to reach all the goals, to manifest visions. Maybe they did, maybe they didn’t. Who isn’t tired or fatigued and looking for a way to disrupt the incessant pattern of grind? The working title of this book was actually *Rest Sutras*, named after the yoga sutras. Ultimately, though, what I’m talking about is this remembrance of your sacredness. When something is sacred, there is a sense of reverence and care with which we engage with it. For so many, the way we’re engaging with ourselves and one another, is antithetical to that. We really need to get that we are sacred.
A book has a journey to its becoming. You could be writing a book for two years, and then it comes out two years later. The historical moment we’re in, November 2024, in the U.S. where I’m situated, I didn’t know this is when this book would be brand new in the world. My divine understanding did know this is when the book would arrive, and that this would be the moment we’re in, where so much is heightened and the tempo of that which fatigues us is actually speeding up. My invitation is to fiercely, yet gently, resist that. And so here we are.
NICOLE
Yeah, so beautifully said. I love how you speak and write so much. It’s interesting, right? Because we’re at a very interesting inflection point. We’re recording this two days post-election. One of the things you wrote in your newsletter is like, no one worked harder than Kamala Harris. Right? I just say that as an interesting point because it’s true. That woman busted her butt that whole time. We look at how, for so many of us, that’s what we do all the time. We grind, we go harder, we push harder, thinking that that will be the difference when really it may not give you the outcome you want. And then deeper, on a deeper level, does that really serve us, you know?
I think about that frequently because I work with a lot of women too; on working less. We’re always asking, “Okay, how can we work fewer hours in the day?” I’m always asking myself that question as well. When I find the work creeps in and gets a little longer, or just an hour more at a time, I have to really calm myself and just be like, “Hey, it’s okay to just close your computer and go downstairs and read a book for half an hour and then go to the gym,” because that’s going to serve you—not grinding. Everything you were saying really resonates with me. I think a lot about Asian American women and the cultural reasons they work so hard. But I also think it’s true for everyone.
My question for you is really around, I know you’re often speaking to women leaders, you work specifically with women of color – who do you feel like this book is for, specifically? Is it the women leaders that you work with? Is it for everyone? Is it for you on a bigger level, like a movement of everyone being able to rest? Because I don’t know anybody who doesn’t really hustle.
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
I would say that too. I was just on a live with my friend and comrade, Michelle Cassandra Johnson, and we lifted up and named and acknowledged that everyone is tired, and some of us are more tired. The “why” to that fatigue is actually important because the “why” might invite us to a different solution. Some people right now are like, “I’m tired from the last 100 days.” Some people are saying, “I’m tired from the last 100 years.” Some people are saying, “I’m tired, and my mother was tired, and she crossed an ocean,” and all of these things. That really does matter.
In that full awareness, *Rest is Sacred* as a sacred text can meet everyone where they are. In some of the writing, people are going to be challenged to think about and be fiercely gentle as they confront, “Well, what’s your tired? What’s causing your fatigue?” It is not necessarily the same mechanism of what’s causing this person’s fatigue. Within all of that, we do share an unfortunate cause, which is a system and institutions that really exploit people’s labor, and there’s often someone else benefiting from the hardest of Black, Indigenous, and people of color’s labor. I would be remiss not to acknowledge that some of our conditioning and the survival mechanisms we employ come from that.
So I guess that’s my answer: why we’re all tired is both different and the same. Ultimately, *Rest is Sacred* meets whoever is reading it where they are. You asked a specific question, though. The thing that I experienced is that folks have been reading *Rest is Sacred* and then reaching out, and people go, “Octavia, it feels like you’re talking to me.” And then I go, “I am.” Part of that is my writing process. So I’m resting, and then I’m journaling, and then I’m moving into a more formalized writing process. I had a teacher in ninth grade who said, “Always write to a real person.” That has been reinforced in many different ways.
Another way I wrote this book is to write these poems. *Rest is Sacred* has three sections. The first and last sections are poems, but those are also literal love notes to people I know who I wanted to write a rest and love note to. Then I took the names off, and some revision happened. So it’s a love note to you. I’m talking to you. You might read one and be like, “She’s talking to me.” I probably am. I’m going to be like, “She put Nicole.” Sometimes it wasn’t a single person; it would be like, “Dear Nicole, Christy,” and, you know, like, whatever. Always, it was like, “And dear Octavia.”
The other thing is, *Rest is Sacred* is for people who actually want to disrupt the habituated, grinding, ‘over-efforting’. They’re actually like, “Okay, I don’t want to think about it anymore.” It’s not challenges in the word because sometimes I’m encountering people who are just like, “No, no, we can’t rest. No one can rest.” I’m like, “If that’s your truth, then rock on with that. Have a good time.” But the person who finds themselves holding *Rest is Sacred*, they’re like, “It is time. It is time. I’m ready.” Even if I’m ready to pause for a minute, that’s where we’re going to start, right? So it’s for that person. It’s not a how-to book.
It’s not going to tell you how to. It’s going to invite you to remember your sacredness. From that remembrance, we start to become more aware of, “Well, what do I need, and what can I do for myself and my family, my community to better support our rest?” It’s not a how-to manual. I know how to do that. If I back up a few steps, what I know is when people get the how-to before something in their mind or inside has shifted, the how-to doesn’t matter. I read something one day that was talking about health and fitness, and it was really about weight loss. It was like, “We’re not at an information deficit on weight loss. We’re not at a how-to deficit.” There are many things in the way.
For me, with rest, I think there is a place for the science of it all. As a practitioner, I love that. What I encounter time and time again in my coaching clients is backing up a few steps and really examining what we believe is true, what we believe about ourselves and work, what we believe about ourselves and rest, and starting from there. I could write a how-to book. I might write a how-to book, but I felt like in a journey that we’re collectively on around rest and work, inviting people into the heart and soul and mind of it felt important to me to do that at this point.
NICOLE
One of the things about what you’re sharing and what I just know of you personally is that you actually are really a beautiful worker. You love to do things like put out books and put things into the world. You’re just not doing it in a way that sacrifices yourself and your health and your mind and your emotional and spiritual self. I think that’s one thing. Sometimes my people can get a little mixed up, and I’m like, you can totally be absolutely ambitious and not work that hard and have all these things you want in your life. Because I feel like we share a lot of conversations like that, and I always like to clarify that with people because sometimes my people are like, “Oh, well, I’m going to lose my ambition.” I’m like, “No, you’re going to get clearer on it, and you’re going to understand.”
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
Yeah, I was going to say clarity and get in alignment and deepen your relationship to purpose. My only kind of linguistic critique would be that I’m not a worker; I create. I’m a creative. That feels different. I’m in relationship with creation and creativity, and that keeps me in the rhythm of like there’s an ebb and flow. Creation harmonizes with nature, right? There’s winter, spring, summer, fall. I live in North America. Being in relationship with that helps me to be like, “Okay, winter, I might be hibernating on this or gestating on this or considering.” There’s an ebb and flow to everything.
So I’m creative, I am ambitious, I am here to… I always say when I exhale my last breath, I want to enter into the next space with love and power, and I want to leave it all meaning. I’m not trying to experience and create and offer up what I’m here to offer. How do I put this? The frenetic busyness is a distraction from actual purpose to me. I don’t know how to say that another way.
The other thing I know, and you know because we have these offline conversations, is that when we get in alignment, there’s flow. When there’s flow, we’re not… There’s some effort required to get into flow, but the ‘over-efforting’ isn’t it. That leaves us depleted. The other thing is I get to create and work with joy. I just do. Someone asked me, “What do you believe?” We were talking about how the belief has to change for the next thing to change. I’m like, “I believe that I get to create and work with joy, with delight, with curiosity, with all of that.” For me, at this juncture, ambition is not separate from that. That’s part of my ambition—how I get to do it. The how matters to me as much as the what and how it feels. I’m not a stranger to effort. I’m not anti-effort. One of my core teachings is that it often takes effort to get to ease.
You know, I’m laughing because I’m like, “Yeah, that’s true.” But it’s like we’re putting effort into something. Let’s turn the arrow, point the arrow of our effort toward more ease versus effort to beget more effort to get more. What are we focusing on?
NICOLE
Well, you said something that I had already been thinking. I wanted to hear your perspective on it because this came up with some of my clients at my retreat a couple of weeks ago. What was happening, and what we identified for many of them, was this pattern that the overwork was their way of avoiding the thing they needed to actually look at. So they were avoiding their marriages for sure.
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
Oh, I know, right? Because it’s easier to work than to look at your marriage.
NICOLE
You’re like, “I know how to do this. I can send some emails.”
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
We know how. So here’s the thing that I will be very transparent about. People have different vices and addictive patterns. Mine is work. When something gets uncomfortable, relationally or if I’m bumping up against something internally, I feel like I could just work. For me, having that awareness has been about being really fierce and gentle with myself around, “Oh, my kind of cop-out and coping mechanism is I will work, and I will be rewarded, and I’ll feel better about everything because I went and did the work.”
But I wouldn’t have actually addressed the internal thing that work is allowing me to avoid. Now we just got real up on this podcast. The thing is, it’s like first noticing that it’s not going to change just because we notice it. But that is light years of a leap to go, “Oh, am I avoiding something right now with these? Why am I making so many to-do lists?” Yes, stuff needs to happen and be done. But all the time, I have to ask myself that question. One of my questions is, “Why is my calendar so full with 18 things in one day?” which is very rare. But it’s like, “Am I avoiding something? Am I avoiding someone? What? Rush can be so confrontational.
NICOLE
Well, that’s the thing I think I was curious about because it was very confrontational. We were looking at, I mean, obviously marriages was a big one. But also, you know, dating for people who were wanting relationships. It’s easier to work or spend time with your friends or do side projects or avoid the project you want, like launching your business. There are always all these things you can do to avoid what we really need to look at. I love what you’re sharing—that it can actually be confrontational. Sometimes I think, you know, you’re like, “Oh, I just get to rest.” But then you’re like, “Well, rest will actually lead you to see the things that you’re not wanting to see.”
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
Oh, you’re good to see. Yeah. You know, I say rest sometimes feels good, and sometimes it just makes me feel, you know? And then it’s like, well, why would you want to do that? Here’s the thing: whether we address it or not, it’s there, right?
And the other thing is, I teach restorative yoga. One of my favorites is when we get all propped up and we’re held, and then we lay there for 15 minutes at a time in a pose. I give instructions to get in, and then I always say, “Things might come up. You might just fall asleep.” If you are physically tired, a lot of times you get an opportunity to be still, and you’re like, “Oh, I just fall asleep.”
And you wake up when it’s time for the next posture. But a thing I often say is you might laugh, you might cry, you might have a memory. Something might come up while you’re resting. The brilliant thing about resting is you don’t have to do anything about it. It comes up to be released. The caveat is, if it is disturbing, feels re-traumatizing or triggering, then we go to the breath. We shift the thought.
We do something to move out of that. But even when we do that, the thing came up for a second, and then it’s something released. One of my teachers and mentors, Dr. Gail Parker, always says that when we rest and something comes up, it can kind of move. She says it never comes back.
Whatever that was, you might have some other dimension or layer to the thing to be released, but it’s not that again. And that’s something powerful to me. Rest takes courage. I’m very clear that it takes courage because of the cultural conditioning, and no one’s really granting permission for it. So it takes courage to say, “I permit myself to rest,” and I will. But then once we actually get there and lay down, it takes courage to just be with ourselves.
What I also hear rising to the surface in this conversation is that intimacy requires courage. We want it, but there’s the fear of losing the self. There’s the fear of being seen even as we yearn for that. Rest restores us to a right relationship with ourselves. I keep saying gentle and fierce because that’s how I’m feeling these days. My relationship with myself is so much more gentle.
I love myself, flaws and all, and all the women that I have been, where rest has supported me in replacing guilt and shame, which is love in the sense of I really was doing the best I could back then and a lot of times right now. I’m also more fierce about my self-worth and protection. That makes me such a better partner and mother. I’m checking for myself now, and some things that I’d be trying to outsource because I wasn’t doing it for me or with me, I don’t feel the need to anymore because I’m in a better relationship with myself now. Thank you for lifting up that it takes courage.
If you’re listening to a whole podcast on rest, you’re courageous. Look at you, right? That means you can pause for a minute and just be with yourself, see yourself, and ask yourself how you’re doing. So it does take courage. And here we are.
NICOLE
Yeah, I feel it does. It really does. I’ve noticed that one of the things I’ve been working on a lot is feeling more ease in my working days. It’s not like I work so much; I really don’t. I work about 25 hours a week, and to me that feels reasonable. I can get everything done that I want to.
I don’t feel overworked. But there’s this experience that when I’m doing it, it’s like go, go, go, go, go. It’s intense, right? I don’t want to be in that intensity. I want it to be useful and relaxed. Sometimes I can do that, and sometimes I’m like, “Oh, look at you.” Today is actually a day where I’m like, “Oh, yeah, it’s pretty easeful. It’s pretty restful.” I’m not overbooked; I’m getting to do the things that are really fun, like talking to you and doing things that I really enjoy and create within my business.
But it’s interesting because it’s not like… I always think about this. This can happen with anybody—any kind of coach or leader position. People think that we have it dialed perfectly, and it is a constant adjustment. We all go into seasons where we’re like, “Oh, maybe I’m not resting as much as I need to,” or “I’m not feeling as easeful in my business as I want to,” and I have to check myself.
That overwork conversation with my clients was so interesting because I had never really looked at it like, “Oh, I overwork to avoid,” but I overwork to compensate. That’s where it comes up for me a lot. If those dopamine hits are where I feel like I know what I’m doing, I’ve done this before, etc. It’s just interesting to notice how work and rest can show us so much about ourselves.
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
It really can. Yeah, it can. And there’s a seasonality to things, meaning sometimes the intensity is like, “Whoa!” And then sometimes, things can be intense. Rest also increases our capacity to just be with the polarities that life is constantly presenting us with. I love that you named that. I know I’m not sitting on a pedestal.
You can’t see me, but I’m sitting up taller and lifting my chin, kind of like, “Look at me. I have it all figured out.” I am in practice. What I teach is a practice. A practice means that I am willing to touch and be touched by it, whatever the practice is, on a consistent and daily basis. In my rest practices, I don’t do hour-long rest practices every single day. My primary practice is something that’s 12 minutes long, and then I’m weaving through my life, you know, pauses, check-ins, and more ease.
The way I calendar my life is quite different these days than how I used to. I’m leaving space between meetings; I’m starting meetings with a 30-second to 3-minute pause. I’m just naming some more practical rest practices. Sometimes people go, “I just can’t do it,” and I’m like, “You can pause for 30 seconds.”
But it’s first about remembering. What do you have to believe to allow yourself to remember that you can pause?
NICOLE
When you’re speaking to it, I think we have to build the practices. I work with my clients a lot on building the practices and then letting yourself notice when you lose the practice. What is it telling you? In the morning, I have a rule of no phone. When I get on my phone before my morning practice, I ask myself, “Okay, what’s that telling me? What’s this showing me?”
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
With me right now? What’s up? That’s it. I go, “What’s happening?” That’s the relationship to self, which is a beautiful intimacy to have. I was doing something early today, and I said, “Okay, Octavia, what’s up?”
NICOLE
What’s going on with you?
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
What is going on? It’s just like, okay. It’s about orienting toward a real relationship with self.
NICOLE
Yeah. That’s so beautiful. So the book, right, is set up so that you have… I love it. I was like, “It’s Octavia; she’s a poet, but she’s a writer.” It’s so awesome.
I loved all of those pieces of the book, but what would you say is your favorite thing that you get to do in the book? Is it more of the writing piece or the things that you’re saying? Is there a particular section you’d point people toward?
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
Oh, you know, I just… You can’t see me, but I move my body. The book is divided into *Rest is Refuge*, which is a place where we can just come and be held and be received. That’s something I wanted people to know, trust, and remember. Then we move into the middle of the book, *Rest is Remembrance*. For me, that represents…
I have remembered so much of who I am and whose I am. So much had gotten lost for me in the chasing and being busy and achieving that I remember what I actually came here to do and achieve versus some of the external things I had taken on, thinking, “That’s good. Let me go run after that.” We move from refuge to remembering self to revelation. When we move through all those, we can access really profound, deep vision and insight from our rest.
When you first asked that question, I started moving my body because I was feeling through when I was writing each section as it was coming together. When I got to *Rest is Revelation*, the last part of the book where it’s all about visioning, I’m sharing some of my revelations. Instead of meeting people at a party and going, “What do you do?” we say, “How do you be?” Instead of always organizing around rest and the doing, we’re inviting people into rest.
That’s one of my favorite parts of the book. When I was writing, it felt like we need to have this down. This is the grounding. *Refuge* felt really like when I was writing, and I felt like I was in a deep, dark womb space. I went in to get that. There was more levity to the remembrance, and by the time I got to *Revelation*, that section came together and breathed new air.
All of it, though, is necessary. I love the prayers in the book. I imagine that people would like to open meetings or classes or facilitation sessions with some of those prayers. I want people to read it and see how it lands in their body. One thing I say in the introduction is reading this book is a rest practice.
I give the instruction to not sit and read it all at once because for me, that’s what makes it a rest practice. I’ve been getting lots of messages where people are like, “That was ingenious that you said that,” because it made me read the whole book at once. I’m like, “Well, that wasn’t why I did that.” I was inviting us to remember what it means to not devour something or to not be devoured, but to savor.
To read a page or two and then just let it land or just be with it and make the reading process a resting process—not rushing through, not fighting to get to the end, but being in the journey of experiencing as the book unfolds. If you read it slowly, what I think will happen is your mind will start to shift in a more sustainable way around rest and work in remembrance of your own sacredness.
So I love the *Revelation* part. I love all the parts. I’m going to repeat the instruction in the introduction: don’t devour the book. Savor it.
NICOLE
Well, I laughed because I read that part at night. I like to walk a certain amount per day, and I was getting my steps. I was like, “I don’t think this is what she means by reading the book.” I was just kind of landing, and then I was going through it. It actually did make me pause and be like, “Okay, I’m going to put the book down and pick it up again at lunch.”
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
I have a friend who left me a message. She said, “I’ve been calling people. Leaving voice memos of just reading parts of the book.” I was like, “That’s beautiful.”
She’s like, “Whatever part I read, I sit with it. Then I’ll pick up my phone and record myself reading it and send it to someone.” I’m like, “Okay, that’s beautiful. Do that.”
NICOLE
Yeah, I love that, too. If I were still teaching yoga, I could totally see myself bringing that in and reading it during Shavasana or something, just for people to really see that piece of it. What is the best way for people to pick it up? I know that it’s probably available in most places, but what’s the best way?
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
It really is. If they go to restisacred.com, you’re going to get at least eight places. It’s in Barnes & Noble, on the Shambhala site, my local store is Karris, and there’s always Amazon. So restisacred.com is where you can find it. You could also just put the title in, and every place you can buy a book will pop up for you to order it from there.
NICOLE
Beautiful. We’re also going to link it in the show notes, but I wanted people to hear about it from you.
Octavia, I’m so grateful for you. I really love our conversations here today. I appreciate you so much as a human and also as a creative and someone who really inspires me with the work that you do. I’m so grateful you came on today with the School of Self-Worth and a huge congratulations for putting *Rest is Sacred* into the world.
OCTAVIA RAHEEM
Thank you, Nicole. Thank you for having me.
NICOLE
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