In this episode, Nicole chats with her former Your Clear Calling (YCC) student, Sarah Castle, about how Sarah transformed her life and moved from being an Amazon executive to becoming a college professor and launching her own business.
Before YCC, Sarah carried work home with her every day. She knew she needed to make a change, but didn’t know how to make the leap.
You’ll hear how Sarah decoupled her worth from her job in order to reallocate time to her family, friends, community, and things she loves to do. Hear about the unexpected benefit of incremental changes towards a goal…. even when the timing doesn’t feel right.
Sarah is the founder of Castle Coaching & Consulting, a firm focused on helping individuals and companies get clear on what they want, and then, going after it! Prior to starting her business, Sarah was an executive at Amazon, where she worked for 15 years. There she held a variety of roles in mergers & acquisitions, investment fund portfolio management, digital devices, Amazon Alexa voice technology, digital and print books, and human resources.
Through all of this experience, she honed in on her purpose – transforming organizations and elevating leaders. Now, she’s working in her purpose every day by being a coach, consultant, and speaker. Outside of her business, she lives a full life where she’s a mother, mentor, entrepreneurship professor, non-profit board member, published author, athlete, home cook, and an all-around badass!
“I just didn’t want to live like that anymore. I wanted to have more time for family. I wanted to branch out in different ways. I couldn’t figure out how to quite make the jump and that’s when I joined Your Clear Calling.”
“When I started to detach myself and decouple my worth from what I was producing at work, I started to see things differently. I started saying yes to other things, which forced me to spend less time working.”
“One of the key things you can do is start making these incremental changes, these small steps where you’re putting yourself out there a little bit. The other thing that led to a lot of action for me is I started telling people about my vision and about my goals. It makes it real.”
“I was better at my job because of how I was showing up, how I had set boundaries, and what I expected of my team members.”
“Your Clear Calling just helped me know what to say yes to and when the opportunities came, I was clear, and I just did it.”
“For me, there was a very natural path to just keep going, get promoted to the next level, and take the next biggest job. You can get into this default mode where you’re doing all the right things and life can be pretty good but it still doesn’t feel quite right.
“Spending the time to be really specific about what it is you actually want is really helpful. Then you’ll develop goals that will get you somewhere where you want to be and remove the influence of expectations that others might have on you.”
“I practiced knowing what I wanted and what made me feel good. When opportunities came along that aligned with what I wanted, I could say yes to them.
“It’s important to tune in more frequently and regularly to what you intuitively know you’re meant to be doing or what gives you energy. I became clear on what gave me energy and what didn’t and started making decisions based on that.”
“There’s some level of bravery you need to have to make a change and trust that you’ll figure it out.”
“Take the leap and invest in yourself. Often, especially for women, we don’t invest in our own self and development as much as we could. For me, I’ve invested quite a lot over the last ten years, which has dramatically shifted my life in so many positive ways. So, try investing and knowing that you’re worth it to see what happens. It’s very likely and maybe inevitable that something awesome will come out of it because you’re focusing on yourself. We often don’t do that in that kind of setting, so it can be an accelerator.”
NICOLE
Hello and welcome back to another episode of the School of Self-Worth. This is part of my Your Clear Calling Success series, where I sit down with some of my incredible and inspiring past Your Clear Calling students to share how their lives have been completely transformed by their clear calling. If you’re not already familiar with my signature program, it breaks down the exact steps required to identify and live into your purpose. It helps you completely shift your relationship with yourself and with those whom you love. Within the span of twenty weeks, you won’t recognize yourself from the first day of the program to the very last day. It is a wild ride and a total metamorphosis.
Today, I am sitting down with coach and college professor Sarah Castle, who used YCC to get dream gigs at work, then leave her corporate job of 15 years for a full-time job as a college professor, land speaking gigs, and launch her own coaching business. More importantly, she built a relationship of unbreakable trust with herself. As you’re listening, if you’re thinking “Oh my god, I see myself in Sarah. This is exactly the kind of transformation I want for myself,” You are in luck, because Your Clear Calling just opened for enrollment. It is your turn to create the life and purpose you imagined for yourself. Doors close on Tuesday, May 30th. So if you are all in, go to go.nicoletsong.com/ycc to secure your spot in the May 2023 cohort. Again, that’s go.nicoletsong.com/ycc.
Well Sarah, it is so fun to have you here on School of Self-Worth. Welcome.
SARAH CASTLE
Hi! Thank you for having me. I’m really excited to be here because this is a topic I’ve been working on for a long time.
NICOLE
I know it’s been quite a journey. We’re here as part of the alumni series for Your Clear Calling. Right before we started talking, we were discussing that time in your life when you took the course because you had so many things going on. I would love to start first with your self-worth journey and then we can talk about that time in your life where you were coming into Your Clear Calling and making a ton of transitions and changes. But let’s just learn a little bit about you first, so people can get a sense of what you’re about and what you’re up to these days.
SARAH CASTLE
Okay, so for the self-worth journey, I can’t help but go back to childhood. Essentially, I grew up with a single mom who worked really hard. A lot of what I focused on was how to build myself a different life. How do I build my way out of this? How do I not have financial constraints? How do I have more freedom around this where I saw my mom being worried a lot? So, I think a lot of the decisions I made were grounded in how to achieve and accomplish things. How do I earn and build this life for myself? And so, I got into some really strong patterns around working hard.
It’s great in many ways; I accomplished a ton of things and got to the point where I was giving so much to work that I wanted to have coaching so that I could actually make other decisions. And so that’s what a lot of my focus around worth was on: how do I just build this life for myself? And now, several years ago, I got to a point where I don’t have to worry about that anymore. I don’t need to think about it in that way. And so then, I really started to consider what do I want to do now? What’s my purpose? How do I put myself in a position where I can achieve these things that before wouldn’t have been practical or seemed like a good idea, but they’re things I really wanted to do?
That’s kind of where I started and where I am now, and then we can fill in the blanks.
NICOLE
Sarah and I met years ago in the yoga world. Looking back to where you were at, you were in the Your Clear Calling cohort of the early part of 2021, in the winter of 2021. By that point, Sarah, you were starting to put in a lot of change. You had spent a decade plus in corporate culture, really with your head down just working hard like you said. Could you share a little bit more about what was the mentality that you had going into the course and what were you hoping to get out of that work?
SARAH CASTLE
I was looking for big change and trying to figure out how to go from where I was to where I wanted to be. You and I had done work together before this and so I had made incremental changes. I made some really positive job changes, some positive changes in my life. I had a kid, right? A bunch of things had happened, but I was at the point where I was ready to shift. The time was now to shift and so that’s what I was looking for when I joined Your Clear Calling: how to make the leap.
NICOLE
Yeah, so you had actually really done a lot of hard work to know you wanted to make changes, because for so many people that is a very difficult stage to reach.
SARAH CASTLE
Yeah, I mean I had very clear goals which helped me so much. I had really clear goals around opening my own business someday, goals around speaking, writing a book – these things that I could not figure out how to make time for in the life that I had.
NICOLE
How many hours were you working then? Do you remember at that time?
SARAH CASTLE
I don’t know. It’s hard with how connected we are, and I was a senior leader in running big teams, I was never off. So, you know, I worked probably a normal day but then I was always looking at email, never fully on vacation, probably working almost every night, after my daughter went to sleep, and parts of the weekend. That was a peak work time for me. It was a peak amount of work in my career because of the nature of the job I had and that might have helped push me towards wanting to change and figuring it out – because I just didn’t want to live like that anymore. I wanted to have more time for family. I wanted to branch out in different ways. I was putting all my energy into one job, but I wanted to be doing like five different things. I wanted to do some non-profit work, work in the community, spend more time with my daughter and husband. I couldn’t figure out how to quite make the jump and that’s when I joined Your Clear Calling.
NICOLE
Awesome! Well, thank you for sharing that. I feel like so many people are listening and resonating with this because they’re like “Oh yeah, they’re a bit overworked and doing a lot and they have families and things they care about outside of their work and yet they can’t figure out how to even find the time to start to make the change.” What would you say was instrumental for you in starting to figure out, “How do I even make the time to sort through what this would take?”
SARAH CASTLE
One of the biggest things for me was actively working on having a detached commitment to my work. I wanted to do a good job and work hard, but I started setting boundaries around the emotional connection to my work. I think this came from coaching and the course. I realized that I hadn’t set any boundaries before. But once I did, I realized that I could still do a good job and be a good employee, leader, and manager without being consumed by it all the time. When I started to detach myself and decouple my worth from what I was producing at work, I started to see things differently. I started saying yes to other things, which almost forced me to spend less time working. Once I became committed, yet detached, and said yes to these other things, I created an environment where I was starting to be fulfilled in different ways. I had to work less because I said yes to these other things that I wanted to do. So it was a reallocation of how I was spending my time.
NICOLE
Well, I like it because what happened is you started to move towards something. You and I have talked about this many times: how do you give yourself something to move towards? A lot of us spend a lot of time being like “Well, I want to get away from something. I want to be done with working so hard. I want to get away from my job.” But then we get really directionless around this. So you actually gave yourself things that were fun, exciting, or interesting for you.
SARAH CASTLE
It was like “Oh, start working on a book. Awesome!” So I started writing my draft outline on a vacation and that was just a fun project to have. Then I started doing some non-profit work after looking into the ones that were closely tied to my heart or to what I really wanted to be spending time on. You’re right, it was like I was doing things I had always wanted to do but hadn’t ever done because I didn’t think I had time. But I actually did have time; I just had to say no to work and set more boundaries there.
NICOLE
What would you say in terms of the tools that you learned in Your Clear Calling around that separation and decoupling of self-worth from your work? Because that is such a journey for so many, especially women who are high achieving and work really hard and have these powerful jobs. What helped you in the course and then to start actually doing it in life?
SARAH CASTLE
One of the things that helped me the most, and I’ve done this many times now, is setting a vision. Going through the exercise of picturing where you want to be in 10 years and doing that in a guided way helps a lot. Just being able to listen in for what that could be and then working backward to create goals for that – to me, that’s life-changing kind of work. I used to be the person who, if someone asked me “Where do you want to be in 5 years?” I would think “Oh please don’t ask me that question. I hate that question.” Because I didn’t know. I was just taking opportunities as they came, which was good many times and every now and then not so good. But I couldn’t look forward for myself. So with the tools around vision and goals, it actually made it really easy to look forward. The power of knowing what you want – it’s an exercise where you outline some key things you want. These really simple things made it easy for me to start to see what I actually did want and then move towards it.
NICOLE
Which brings us to a really important point: the action piece. And I find that is the thing that really stops a lot of people – saying, “Okay, there’s something that I want and I’m going to bring that into the world.” And for you, like what was that shift? Because you also had some time where you knew you wanted to leave but you didn’t do it for some period. So what kind of prompted that shift for you?
SARAH CASTLE
Sometimes it’s just timing. There was a period of time where I was ready to leave and make a big change and then my husband got laid off. So all these practical things come into play. But I think the key for me is that I was doing little things over what ultimately was a long period of time. It took me a couple of years, but it was kind of like “Oh, I’m going to get an LLC for my consulting business. I have no idea what that business is going to be about but I’m just going to start this process, get a lawyer, get the LLC set up, and then see what happens.” Or “I’m just going to get these headshots taken because we can win that in an auction, and it would be fun to have.” And then I had the headshots that I could use for speaking events and those speaking events started to come.
What I found is that with the actions, they could be really small and then they just started to layer on. It’s like “Oh, I got invited to speak. Oh wonderful, I have a headshot for that.” Or “Oh, I have an LLC now. I know now I want to be a coach. I’m ready to start a coaching business.” Or “I bought domain names just randomly without knowing exactly what I was going to be doing in the future. Bought like 5 or 6 domain names with the idea that I would use them.” And so these things are progress and then they almost all ended up mattering or being helpful later, even though I didn’t know what they were going to be for when I did them.
NICOLE
I love that you were taking aligned action that was very messy without attachment to the outcome. And I was laughing when you were talking about detached commitment to work because that’s actually what I think about purpose. We have to have detached commitment to purpose because that’s actually what you were doing also with buying website domains, right?
SARAH CASTLE
Right. just knew I was going to teach or coach or consult but it was all grounded in wanting to grow the leaders of the future. So what kinds of things would I need to do that? Oh, maybe this or maybe that. And I think one of the key things you can do is start making these incremental changes, these small steps where you’re putting yourself out there a little bit. And then the other thing that led to a lot of action for me is I started telling people about my vision and about my goals. And yeah, it does make it real. So many things started to happen more quickly when I did that because then suddenly these opportunities came to me. “Oh, I’d like to teach.” “Oh, why don’t you come guest speak in my college class?” “Oh okay.” “Oh, you did a great job on that. Why don’t I introduce you to these other people?” And then I ended up being an adjunct at a different college. There are just things like that when you tell people about it that can accelerate your progress and your ability to take action because other people help you with the action.
NICOLE
Yeah, or they can also be reminders when you’re not, didn’t you say? and I’m remembering the time where your boss was holding you accountable at your job. Do you remember that?
SARAH CASTLE
Oh yeah, it was a male boss and yes, he totally did that. Good memory. Because I had been talking about it, I knew I was going to work my way out.
NICOLE
Well, that’s interesting. Now I’m thinking you did it twice because you then took a different job which freed up your time in a different way and then you fully exited. So that was like a two-step away.
I’m curious because what was that self-worth journey then like for you? Because it’s one thing to have the self-worth to tell everybody and then for you to actually exit because you exited your company. So what was it like to say “I’m leaving behind this job I’ve had for…you know, fifteen years”? I mean not one job but this company I’ve been at for 15 years to go out on my own which is a level of courage that is really challenging for so many. And I’m not saying that everyone has to do the pathway that Sarah took but it was a really clear pathway for you that it was time for you to go.
SARAH CASTLE
It was not hard, which is surprising because people ask me that a lot. I’m only not even a year out from this change and so I’m still connected with people I worked with before. They often ask me “How is it? Do you miss it?” No, I don’t. The transition was totally fine. It was easy. I was ready to say goodbye. And you might relate to this or others who listen might relate to this, but sometimes you just know you’re done and you’re ready to move on and then you just do. So for me, I had been working on this. I knew what I wanted to do. I knew what my purpose was. I had been making these incremental changes. Suddenly all the pieces came together even earlier than I expected them to. When it was time to go, I just said goodbye and I was fine and I knew it would be okay.
The biggest challenge for me was more the wealth part of the equation: going from a really financially stable, privileged position to a lot less stable and earning significantly less. So that’s the part where I still practice and get tripped up on, but I gave myself time. I gave myself two years. I have a goal that I’ll double my income in two years and so I often have to remember that for myself, which is like “Oh, I gave myself that time.” But otherwise, it wasn’t hard to say goodbye at all – which could probably be true for other people too where you think it’s going to be hard, and it turns out it’s actually not.
NICOLE
Well, I feel like when we often have something that we know deep down – like this happens sometimes with difficult conversations – people will come to me and say “I don’t want to have this conversation with this person” and I’m like “Well, they already know.” When we’re ready and something is percolating under the surface, whether it’s a work relationship or your partner or anybody in your friendship, it’s always there. So we like to pretend like nobody knows or understands but the truth is your company knew, your people knew, everyone knew as much as you did that it was really time and you were ready to go.
SARAH CASTLE
I think that’s true. No one was surprised and it didn’t make me a less good leader in my last year or six months. In fact, there are probably elements where I was better at my job because of how I was showing up, how I had set boundaries, what I expected of my team members. There are some ways where I think I created a much better working environment as I was planning my exit. Or I knew that it would happen in the next year or however long. And then when I did go, everyone was like “Yeah okay, you’re right. You’re meant to do this. Go make the most of it.”
NICOLE
I love that. And then where Your Clear Calling came in – it ended before you exited, but it was definitely during that stretch. Where would you say, you know, by the end of the course – I think it was March or so in 2021 – how it helped you mentally to really make those big pushes because you left a few months after that.
SARAH CASTLE
I don’t know if I should reveal this, but I already knew that I was making one big career change. It happened before Your Clear Calling ended. And then so, I had already said yes to something that was six months away before I started the new thing. Your Clear Calling just helped me get aligned to being able to say yes. I mean, I just knew in my body – the whole full-body sensation – I got offered this opportunity and I was like “Yup, I’m going to do that.” So Your Clear Calling helped me get there. And then I had set some additional goals around training for myself and kind of building the second arm of what my new career would be. And so it was after Your Clear Calling – I didn’t think it was going to work out actually – and this was to do coach training. I didn’t think it was going to work out because I wasn’t sure they were going to offer that training. I still had a goal around going through some kind of coaching certification. And then after Your Clear Calling ended, it turned out the company that I wanted to go through training with did end up offering it. And so again, there I was prepared to say yes because I had spent time thinking and listening in to what I really wanted to be doing. So, sorry this is a long way to say Your Clear Calling just helped me know what to say yes to and when the opportunities came, I was clear, and I just did it.
NICOLE
I love how you’re showing everyone that it can be really simple, but we go through a lot to make it simple. You know, there’s a lot of inner work and different pieces you have to go through to get to that point where you’re like “Oh well, I know what to do. I’m not going to sit here and debate myself over the things I know are right for me.”
SARAH CASTLE
Yeah, well I had been working on that for a long time. I keep this notebook of all the coaching and self-development work that I do, and I found my first version of my goals. It’s from 2016 and I had a 5-year goal that I would teach either a college or a high school class. It’s so interesting. So, five years would have been 2021 and then later I created more goals like this. This was an old artifact but it’s really interesting that then I created other goals that were kind of like that, and actually before 2021, I was teaching a college class. So a bunch of this had been percolating and had come out in different goals and maybe I’d been moving towards it. But it didn’t become a major career shift until some years in when I realized “Oh, I love this. I know I’m meant to do this.” And then I was in a position to be able to make it my work.
NICOLE
That’s amazing. Well, I love how when we were setting goals, Sarah and I have had a couple of rounds of work before. Once you said, “Well, I want to be really careful what I write down because they come true, right?”
SARAH CASTLE
It’s true. Almost all of them have come true and I work at it. Sometimes things happen where I’m not necessarily told someone and they’re working on it for me. It’s not like I’m looking at my goals every week and saying, “Oh, what did I say I was going to do in April 2023 or October 2023?” But I will go look at them at least twice a year or 3 times a year and I’ll be like, “Oh, that’s done” or “That happened.” So there’s something by doing the work and I think your clear calling helps with this. It’s in you, like it’s already in your mind, right? So you’re probably doing work on it without realizing that you are.
NICOLE
In our clear calling process, we set goals differently than in a corporate setting. Instead of setting quarterly goals, we take the time to ensure that our goals are aligned with our vision. For example, if you want to decorate your house, you would start by choosing a color palette and creating a vision board on Pinterest. This process is more intentional and helps you find the right fit for you, which is the true definition of purpose.
SARAH CASTLE
Yeah, I can see that too. And it’s like you learn to listen to yourself. I mean, we get all this information from other people and expectations of what we think we should be doing. Like for me, there was a very natural path to just keep going, get promoted to the next level, take the next biggest job. And you can kind of get into this default mode where you’re doing all the right things and life can be pretty good. But it still doesn’t feel quite right? Like you know it’s not quite right? Or maybe you want more, who knows? So spending the time to be really specific about what it is you actually want, is really helpful. Then you’ll develop goals that will get you somewhere where you want to be and kind of remove the influence of expectations that others might have on you.
NICOLE
You mentioned feeling like something is not quite right. When that happens, some people may feel guilty about wanting to change their situation because they are in a privileged position with a good job and high income. They may think, “Who am I to give up all of this?” What was your experience like trying to sort through those feelings and deciding to pursue something different?
SARAH CASTLE
Throughout my corporate career, I had many moments where I felt like I lost my mojo. I was working on cool and innovative things that were fun a lot of the time, but not always. Sometimes I felt like it wasn’t quite me and other people might have felt the same. We often ignore these feelings for long periods of time. So, I practiced knowing what I wanted and what made me feel good. When opportunities came along that aligned with what I wanted, I could say yes to them.
I think it’s important to tune in more frequently and regularly to what you intuitively know you’re meant to be doing or what gives you energy. I became clear on what gave me energy and what didn’t and started making decisions based on that.
NICOLE
So, there was just more to life than what you were doing and you wanted something different. You were done with the things you had done, and it was time for something new.
SARAH CASTLE
Yes, I had certain jobs before I made the big shift recently. I knew that it wasn’t enough and that I was meant to do more. Sometimes it took me too long to realize that. Maybe I waited too long, but now I’m better at not waiting as long. The practice is being able to say no or yes more quickly, and getting sharper at doing that.
NICOLE
Right, because that’s the muscle you get stronger at. You act faster on the things you know to do instead of staring at it for a while. We like to stare at it like a piece of art on the wall, instead of saying it’s time to go.
SARAH CASTLE
But we can also get handcuffed to things. I definitely had financial handcuffs in some ways and that was probably the hardest thing for me to rationalize. Still, there’s some level of bravery you need to have to make change and trust that you’ll figure it out. If not, you can go back or do whatever you want. There are so many options.
NICOLE
That’s what I love about what you’re sharing. There are so many options. We get into this idea that the only way wealth and abundance come is through the paycheck you get every two weeks from your job. But there are so many different ways you can live in this world and contribute by living in these other ways.
SARAH CASTLE
I agree with that. I see that more and more every day. I was taking a very conservative route in my life, but that didn’t really line up with how spontaneous I wanted to be or the level of risk-taking I actually would prefer to take. Through the work with you and your clear calling and other work that I did over some years, I started to trust myself more and be ready to say yes to things that were going to be different than what I had been building up for myself over ten or fifteen years.
NICOLE
That’s why I call it unbreakable trust and your clear calling. It’s about learning to lead your life and really trust yourself to do it. You’re not asking everyone else, including me, how to do it yourself.
SARAH CASTLE
Right. But there’s a community in all of it. This goes back to talking to people and sharing what you want to be doing with others. There are so many people who helped me get to where I am now. Some were small things and others were much larger. It’s a community. Now, the world that I exist in includes female entrepreneurs, coaches, and very different communities than I was in before. I learn so much every day and am continually in awe of how brave people are and how much courage they have to go out on their own or do something different or try something new. Being in those communities makes me braver too, for whatever my next things are going to be.
NICOLE
Absolutely. Can you share with everyone some of the results you’ve had since the course? Since that spring of 2021, what has happened in your life?
SARAH CASTLE
There are a lot of things. I’m trying to think of the biggest ones. One is that I left a job that I really didn’t like. I was regularly talking myself into staying by telling myself that I was in this job to learn certain things. I would have to remind myself of this every week. So, I left that job, which was consuming in many ways, and moved into a job that I loved. That was step one. It was good work with a good team, and I was building again, and it was innovative. Then, I got offered to teach full-time. Even though I was in a job I loved, I knew that I was meant to teach. So, I said yes to a full-time teaching job and now I teach entrepreneurship at a college. I also launched my own coaching and consulting business. I spend more time with my family and have been on multiple trips across the US and the world. I’ve rekindled friendships that I didn’t put enough time into for a period of time and have been able to reignite some of those relationships where I had let them go. Similarly, with family members, I have stronger relationships because I’m putting time into communicating differently and asking different questions. There are so many things about my day-to-day life that have really big shifts.
NICOLE
That’s so powerful. What you’re sharing is both personal and professional because sometimes we come into these things for professional reasons and then so much of the benefit is actually really personal.
SARAH CASTLE
That’s true. I often talk about my career the most because that has been my focus and I’m still very career oriented. But when I did those visioning exercises that we were talking about before, almost every vision exercise that I did was actually about my family. I would be in these scenarios where I’m spending a certain amount of time with my daughter or going to her performances or games in the afternoon. And I would think about what kind of job I would need to have to make that possible. So, a lot of my visions were grounded in spending my time differently than how I was. It’s about health, personal life and relationships, and career. Even though I tend to lean towards the career, it’s all completely integrated.
NICOLE
That’s awesome. What would you say is your tangible tip if anyone is struggling with the idea of investing in themselves to be in this course? What would you tell them?
SARAH CASTLE
I would tell them that if they’re thinking about it or on the edge, just take the leap and invest in yourself. Often, especially for women, we don’t invest in our own self and development as much as we could. For me, I’ve invested quite a lot over the last ten years, which has dramatically shifted my life in so many positive ways. So, try investing and knowing that you’re worth it to see what happens. It’s very likely and maybe inevitable that something awesome will come out of it because you’re focusing on yourself. We often don’t do that in that kind of setting, or way, and so it’s an accelerator.
NICOLE
Absolutely. I love that. Are you ready for your rapid-fire questions? Are you excited about these?
SARAH CASTLE
Yes, Okay!
NICOLE
Alright, Sarah. What was the last thing you watched on TV?
SARAH CASTLE
Oh, I can be embarrassed by this. I don’t remember what it’s called, but it’s a movie with George Clooney and Julia Roberts. They go to Bali because their daughter wants to get married. It was a movie I watched with my husband, and I cried multiple times.
NICOLE
I love that. I’m the worst with movie titles so I can’t help you, but I’m sure I’ve watched that movie. Is it a brand-new one?
SARAH CASTLE
This was just last night. Yes, I don’t remember the name either. Any romantic comedy leads to crying for me. I’m just a real sucker for love stories.
NICOLE
I am too. I’m a total romantic comedy fan. I’m sad they don’t make them as much as they used to. Okay, what is on your nightstand?
SARAH CASTLE
I have 3 or 4 books on my nightstand right now. The one I’m reading, and then the ones that are next up. I’m reading a book called “Raising White Kids” about how to think about racial equity as a parent and that’s super interesting for me. I have a little booklet where I write down something I appreciate every day in this tiny little notebook. And then, I have a ball, where I roll my foot every night as part of my bedtime routine.
NICOLE
I love that. Okay, when was the last time you tried something new and what was it?
SARAH CASTLE
I just got back from a trip to Scotland where I tried lots of new things and foods. Not haggis, because I had already had it, but other new foods. And I hiked to the top of this mountain in Edinburgh called Arthur’s Seat with my 5-year-old daughter and my husband. That was a pretty new experience. I wasn’t sure if we were going to make it, but we did and it was awesome.
NICOLE
Awesome! Good job. Okay, last one. What are your top 3 most used emojis on your phone?
SARAH CASTLE
If it’s just me, it’s the standard smiley face. But I actually let my daughter use my phone all the time and she sends emoji texts to my friends and family. So if you’re really looking at it, it’s going to be her emojis which are going to be the princess, the unicorn, and usually some kind of rainbow that would come up as most frequently used. There you go. She’s always trying to bring the lightness.
NICOLE
I would love for those to be my most frequently used emojis. Maybe I’ll have to take a cue from her and change up my emoji use. Awesome! It’s perfect. I would love to receive those kinds of texts from her. So, Sarah, it’s been such a pleasure to have you on here. How can people reach you or find out more about you?
SARAH CASTLE
An easy way to find me is through LinkedIn. I’m /sarahocastle. And then I have a website for my new business that I’ve launched which is castlecoaching.com. So check me out there!
NICOLE
I’m so glad you brought that up! Sarah, it’s been such a delight. We’ve been on such a long coaching journey together too and I just love seeing you soar and put the work in day after day, to create the life that you love. Thank you so much for coming to the School of Self-Worth and I am so grateful to have you in my life.
SARAH CASTLE
Thank you so much for inviting me.
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